What is a F1B Goldendoodle? Comparing F1 vs F1B Goldendoodles

 What is a F1B Goldendoodle? Comparing F1 vs F1B Goldendoodles

ByChris

The world of hybrid Oodle dogs (like the Goldendoodle) has some confusing language. On top of the exciting breed name mashups, different colors, coat types, and generations of Goldendoodles have different names.

Many Goldendoodle breeders and even Poodle rescues will describe the puppy using the combo “F1” or “F1B”. So what is a F1B Goldendoodle?

what is a f1b goldendoodle chartChart explains what is a f1b Goldendoodle

The reasons that people choose Goldendoodles so frequently are their non-shedding nature and health. Different generations do have differences in the hypoallergenic coat, coat type, and overall health.

What is an F1 Goldendoodle?

F1 is shorthand for first-generation or the initial cross between two purebreds. F1 doodle dogs are common, both intentionally or accidentally.

An F1 Goldendoodle indicates that the crossbreed dog is the first generation litter of a purebred Golden retriever and a Poodle.

A F1 Goldendoodle will be 50% purebred Poodle and 50% Golden Retriever.

f1 goldendoodle explanationWhat is a F1 Goldendoodle?

Whenever a hybrid dog is described as F(anything), this is because they are a crossbreed. Purebred dogs are not described as F-anything. Interestingly enough, many dog breeds we consider “purebred” were not around a few hundreds of years ago.

F1 Goldendoodle Characteristics

Because an F1 Goldendoodle is 50% Poodle and 50% Golden Retriever, they have specific characteristics. Although they are genetically 50% of each breed, the featured characteristics can be from either breed.

An F1 Goldendoodle can be more Poodle-like, have a non-shedding coat, or be more like a Golden Retriever and shed.

This means you can get any of the traits from either parent expressed. Other generations that are more Poodle will have more Poodle traits. Other generations that are more Golden Retriever will have more GR traits.

An F1 Goldendoodle that is more Poodle-like has a higher chance of a non-shedding coat and a teddy-bear appearance. An F1 Goldendoodle that is more like a Golden Retriever will have the zany Goldendoodle energy but be more likely to shed.

F1 Goldendoodle traits

    Coat type – anywhere from straight (shedding) right through to wavy or curly

    Non-shedding – depends on coat type. It can be anywhere from full shedding (straight) to zero shedding. Look to other generations like F1b for more peace of mind

    Health benefits of crossbreeding – yes!

    Personality – varies wildly but expect intelligence, trainability, and friendliness

What is an F1B Goldendoodle

I often get asked what an F1b Goldendoodle and why they are in such hot demand. An F1b Goldendoodle is the 2nd generation of crossbreeding between a golden retriever and a poodle.

The B stands for back cross, which means that an F1 (50:50) Goldendoodle has been crossed with one of the purebred parents. This results in a F1B Goldendoodle that is teddy-bear like, non-shedding, and 75% Poodle 25% Golden Retriever.

what is an f1b goldendoodle explainedWhat you need to make a F1b Goldendoodle

The nomenclature F1B (or F1b) for Goldendoodle will almost always mean a Poodle back cross. It technically can mean a Golden Retriever back cross (75% Golden Retriever), but the breeder or rescue will clearly state this.

Why this is so: Goldendoodles are popular for many reasons – but mainly for their non-shedding qualities. These are inherited from the Poodle parent. So almost exclusively, any intentionally bred F1B Goldendoodle will be a Poodle back cross.

F1b Goldendoodle Traits

    That perfect PoodleXGolden Retriever personality

    Typically, a wavy or curly coat

    Non-shedding

    More likely to have a Teddy bear appearance

    Approaching hypoallergenic

    The health benefits of crossbreeding (hybrid vigor)

What sheds less F1 or F1b Goldendoodles

picture of a black Goldendoodle puppyA black color Goldendoodle – such a beautiful coat! Black Groodles are one of the rarer shades to find.

If you are looking for a dog that does not shed, you want to find a dog with more Poodle genes. However, if you’re looking for something with personality and energy, look for one who has Golden Retriever genes.

Because F1B dogs have 75% Poodle Genes than 50% for an F1 Goldendoodle – they are much less likely to shed.

Choose an F1B Goldendoodle to have the least chance of shedding.

Should I get an F1 or F1B goldendoodle

Do you want a big or small dog? Do you need your dog to be a good watch-dog, or can it just lie in the shade and look adorable? Is shedding a deal-breaker?

Some factors that may affect which type of Goldendoodle you choose include size, duration of shedding, and health issues.

F1 Goldendoodles can have ANY of the fantastic traits of the Poodle and the Golden Retriever. There are no guarantees which will be present, though. It is the first generation and a bit of a roll of the dice.

F1 Goldendoodles will typically be cheaper – just be prepared for the unexpected.

F1B Goldendoodles can also have any of the parent breeds’ temperament – but will more likely resemble a Poodle. This means non-shedding and wavy coats are more likely. So if non-shedding is a deal-breaker for you – choose an F1b.

So for asthma or allergy sufferers – pick an F1B Goldendoodle.

If you don’t like dog hair on clothes or constantly sweeping dog hair off the floor, pick an F1B Goldendoodle.

In terms of cost, expect to pay more for an F1B Goldendoodle because of these non-shedding tendencies.

How big will a F1b Goldendoodle get

are goldendoodle puppies good with kidsFrom puppyhood to a adulthood, Goldendoodles are known for being good with children.

The generation of the Goldendoodle is not a primary factor in how large a Goldendoodle will get.

In terms of Goldendoodle size – the two most significant factors are… the parents! A dog will mimic the size of the parents. Simple average the distance between the two parents’ sizes, and most of the time, this will set your expectations straight.

Of course, an F1B Goldendoodle that is a backcross with a Toy or Miniature Poodle will be smaller – so F1B Goldendoodle is often the smaller Goldendoodles. In fact, Toy Goldendoodle and Teacup Goldendoodles are rarely F1 – as more Toy Poodle genetics are needed to limit the size.

The same, of course, operates in reverse – a standard Poodle crossed with a GR will result in a large Goldendoodle. The immediate size of each parent dog will be the most significant influencing factor. You are unlikely to get wild throwback sizes that differ much, even in a multigenerational doodle.

The stockier English Goldendoodle will produce heavier Groodle puppies than American Goldendoodles.

What does a F1 vs F1b Goldendoodle look like

mini goldendoodle licking everything

As dog owners – many of us groom and deeply care about our dog’s appearance. In terms of appearance, an F1 and F1b generation Goldendoodle can vary wildly. It is not the generation that makes them look different. It is the coat type.

    Straight coat Goldendoodles – look like Golden retrievers and have to shed hair (sometimes called a flat coat)

    Wavy coat Goldendoodles – the class teddy bear look – and typically non-shedding

    Curly coat Goldendoodles – the most purebred Poodle-like and lowest shedding. Can be dense kinky curls or loose barrel curls

The coat color of any Goldendoodle generation also can present in any of the coat shades—Black, chocolate, white, golden, red, apricot, merle, gray.

The darkness and variety come from the Poodle – so expect more rare black Goldendoodles and apricot Goldendoodles to be F1b generation.

See more videos on the Oodle Life YouTube channel.

So if you are looking for a teddy-bear dog, look to a wavy-haired F1b Goldendoodle or an F2 Goldendoodle (multigenerational Goldendoodle). (Remember that F1 and F1b Cockapoo and Labradoodle dogs also have a distinct teddy bear appearance and should be considered).

Chris

My name is Chris and I am the co-creator of Oodle Life. My wife and I love playing with our active miniature Labradoodle Max. We want all Oodle puppies to be healthy and happy, have lots of fun and be part of the family.

Breeds

Maltese vs Maltipoo Breed Comparison – Which is Best?

ByChris

Maltese Vs Maltipoo – what is the difference? Which brings out the best traits of the Maltese, the purebred or the hybrid dog oodle? Read on for a showdown between these two breeds. 

maltese vs maltipoo breed comparison two photosBREED SHOWDOWN! Maltese Vs Maltipoo – which is better?

Both are small dogs with long lifespans, but the Maltipoos trend bigger than Maltese. Maltipoos have been growing in popularity recently, while the Maltese have been popular since the Roman Empire. But which breed is better?

Both Breeds

    Affectionate

    Low shedding (hypoallergenic)

    Trainable

Playful and bursting with energy, Maltese and Maltipoos can be a lot to handle in their puppy years, but they’re also affectionate and cuddly. There are many great qualities in both, but a side by side comparison can help you choose your perfect companion.

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At a Glance: Maltese vs. Maltipoo

Maltese Maltipoo (Poodle X)

Height/Weight 7-9 in. / 4-7 lbs. 8-14 in. / 10-20 lbs.

Lifespan 12-15 12-15+

Purpose Companion Dog Companion Dog

Suitable For Single Homes, Families Single homes, Families, Kids

Color Variations White Apricot, Black, Brown, Silver, Tan, White

Temperament Energetic, Affectionate, Sociable with Humans, Wary of Other Pets, Trainable, Separation anxiety Energetic, Affectionate, Sociable with Humans, Sociable with Other Pets, Trainable, Separation anxiety

Other Names Maltese Terrier Moodle, Maltipoodle

Maltese vs. Maltipoo History

white maltese next to maltipooA white pair of Maltese puppies compared to a Maltipoo puppy

Maltese dogs are purebreds, meaning only Maltese genes have passed through their bloodlines for generations. Maltese have similar traits and predictable temperaments. 

Maltipoos are crossbred, meaning they inherit their genes from two different breeds, one Maltese parent and the other Poodle. Breeders hope to get the best of both, but it can be unpredictable. Sizes vary depending on their parents, but the size of their Poodle parent is a helpful hint.

Knowing the history of the Maltese and the Maltipoo can help you decide which breed is better for you.

Maltese History

Maltese get their name from Malta, where they became popular in the fourth and fifth century B.C. They were beloved in the Roman Empire and earned the nickname “Roman Ladies’ Dog” because it was high-fashion to have a Maltese hanging around. After the fall of Rome, Chinese breeders kept the Maltese in the spotlight. They became quintessential show dogs during the earliest exhibitions. With centuries of history, breeders know what traits to expect.

The affectionate, cuddly Maltese made for a great companion in Ancient Rome, and they continue to display these traits today. Their agility and intelligence made them regulars at dog shows, and they’re always ready to play. Even with their high energy levels, regular short walks are enough to keep them healthy.

Maltese belong to the Toy Group of dogs, weighing 4-7 lbs. They are low-shedding with long coats. Their coats are solid white or white with cream or light tan shading. You can easily carry them around and tuck them into your arms for a quick cuddle.

Maltipoo History

Maltipoos are relatively new in the dog breed world, coming into popularity 20 years ago.  The American Kennel Cluband the United Kennel Club haven’t recognized Maltipoos as an official breed. There is more to learn about this young crossbreed, and we need a few more generations before we can say anything specific about long-term health expectations. 

Since we already covered the Maltese half of this breed, let’s take a look at the history of the other parent breed – the Poodle and how it plays into the coat and temperament of the Maltipoo.

maltese puppy vs maltipoo puppyBoth Maltese and Maltipoo puppies are vibrant nd energy packed

Poodle History

The Poodle might be the National Dog of France, but the breed originally came from Germany. The name comes from the Germanic “pudelin,” meaning “to splash”—it’s no surprise Poodles are great swimmers!  

Purebred poodles have three sizes. Measured at the shoulder, the Standard Poodles are over 15 in., Miniatures under 15 in., and Toys are 10 inches.

The Poodle is an excellent retriever thanks to their ancestry as a hunting dog. At any size, they are athletic, eager to learn, and intelligent. 

Poodle coats are curly and dense. Their coats might not be soft but are low-shedding (hypoallergenic).

Maltipoo History

So, with the history of both Poodles and Maltese, what do we know? 

Maltipoos are hypoallergenic, which they get from both their parents. When properly groomed, their soft coat, curly or straight, is perfect for cuddling. The size of your Maltipoo can vary depending on their parentage, as Poodles come in three sizes, but the average Maltipoo weighs 10-20 lbs.

Maltipoos are intelligent. They are easy to train, but it’s essential to pay special attention to toilet training—they can be stubborn! 

They love to play games, and their affectionate side makes them perfect cuddle companions.

Maltese vs Maltipoo Puppy Comparison

maltese vs maltipoo puppy comparison tableComparison of Maltipoo and Maltese puppies

Whether you’re looking for your first canine friend or a new addition to your pack, you might want a head’s up about what to expect when bringing a Maltese or Maltipoo puppy home. 

Characteristic Maltese Maltipoo

Friendliness 7/10 8/10

Cost 7/10 5/10

Trainability 7/10 9/10

Good with Children 3/10 9/10

Puppy Exercise Requirements 4/10 3/10

Overall Health 2/10 9/10

Costs of Maltese vs Maltipoo

The cost of your pup will ultimately depend on you and your particular dog. Luckily, both breeds are small, meaning a lower cost.

Both playful breeds need toys to keep them busy—especially when you need downtime. A survey done by American Kennel Association calculated that pet owners spent $217 annually on toys.

Purebred puppies like the Maltese will cost $1000-2500 USD (true purebreds) and much less for regular breeders or adopting). Maltipoos can range anywhere from $400-$2000 USD. The increased popularity of Maltipoos has made them easier to find than five years ago but has increased the puppy cost.

Pet stores stock sizes that are the most popular. Retailers won’t have as much selection for Toy because small is more profitable. You will spend more time searching to outfit your Maltese. If your heart is set on specific colors or styles, it will cost more.

Appearance and Size of Maltese vs. Maltipoo

Both dogs are small, but the Maltese a Toy Dog. If you stood a little Maltese next to a large Maltipoo, the Maltipoo can be double the height and weight. Even comparing the averages shows that the 7-10 lb. Maltese is a lightweight next to the 10-20 lb. Maltipoo. 

Maltese are known for their white, straight coats, tiny dark nose, and round dark eyes. The only variation is shading, especially around the ears. 

Maltipoos have dark, round, expressive eyes, and their coats come in many colors, the most common being white. Even though darker shades are the least common, you could find your Maltipoo in any of these shades:

    Apricot (Apricot Maltipoo are the most in demand coat color)

    Black

    Cafe Au Lait

    Coffee

    Red

    Silver

    Tan

Grooming for Maltese vs. Maltipoo

grooming maltese vs maltipooThe breeding requirements for a Maltese and a Maltipoo are white different

Both breeds need regular grooming to keep their soft coats from getting matted and knotted.

A Maltese dog will typically have straight, long fur and need brushing to keep their hair untangled. Maltese should have their teeth frequently brushed because they are prone to dental disease. Their nails grow fast. Keep an ear listening for scratching on the floor and check their paws regularly. People often compare the grooming requirements of a Maltese to a Bichon or a Cavachon.

Maltipoos can have straight hair or curly hair, but either can get matted. Most Maltipoo will inherit a Poodle coat.

This means that the Maltipoo coat is non shedding and almost hypoallergenic. Despite the non-shedding matts and knots are a concern. Curved areas, like under their legs, ears, and tail, are knot danger zones. Plus, you should watch out for wax build up inside their ears, as Maltipoos can inherit hairy inner ears that clog easily from their Poodle side. This can result in a smelly Maltipoo OR even an ear infection.

Temperament Maltese vs. Maltipoo

Maltipoos and Maltese have a cuddly, friendly nature in common. They love their humans and can suffer from separation anxiety. With most dogs, training can help prevent and treat this behavior. 

The Maltese breed, as Toy Dogs, are delicate and easy to step on. If your Maltese flies off furniture, it’s a lot further to fall. Although if your Maltipoo is from a purebred Toy Poodle – it might be similarly small!

When it comes to other animals in your life, Maltese can be skittish and are vocal about their discomfort. Maltese can be ‘yippy’ dogs. They tend to be on high alert when they hear a suspicious sound or think another animal is trying to move on their territory. Your Maltipoo might display high-alert behavior when it comes to sounds, but they can relax around other animals. 

Maltipoos are a Poodle mix designer dog, half Maltese and half Poodle, which means you could have any combination of their best or worst traits. Both halves give the Maltipoo intelligence, friendliness, and trainability. The Maltipoo temperament is perfect for families.

You can teach a Maltipoo the standard sit/stay commands, or you can work on agility training. Whatever level of training you’re comfortable with, your Maltipoo will be excited to try it.

Maltipoos can be hyper. They’re curious, social pets, and sometimes they need attention before they’re willing to lie down and snuggle on the couch with you. This hyperactivity can be a lot of fun for families with more than one friend to play with your Maltipoo! If you’re a single owner, it can be rewarding to have a dog that’s always excited to see you, but you need to learn how to calm your Maltipoo when you need some downtime.

Maltese vs. Maltipoo for Families

a maltese puppy takes a forest hike with two ownersA Maltese puppy hiking with two humans. Even small dogs enjoy hikes!

Are you looking for a dog to join a family? Do you have young children? Do you have other animals?

Maltese are social with humans, but you have to be cautious when introducing children to your pet. Kids sometimes forget their own strength and, if they’re very little, can be a bit clumsy. Maltese are curious and want to socialize, which means they’ll be in the middle of the action, getting stepped on, bull-dozed over, grabbed, and bothered. Your kids will mean well, but your Maltese won’t know that! To avoid accidents and injuries, keep your Maltese out of the reach of children. 

Maltese do not always play well with other animals. Maltese love attention from their humans, but they can be irritated by other pets. Many are uber friendly – but a quick read of forums online lets you know that mild anti social traits are not isolated.

Maltipoos love to play games with anyone. They can keep up with kids, but they’ll also happily sit with the family for a movie night. You can make training a family game or walking the dog one of your kids’ chores.

Maltipoos are bigger than Maltese, which gives them an advantage when meeting other dogs. Maltipoos are more comfortable around other animals. You should always respect your dog’s pace when meeting another pet, but Maltipoos are eager to find new friends.

Lifespan and Health Maltese vs. Maltipoo

maltipoo after haircut styleMaltipoo after a haircut. Fresh! Photo by T S Smith /CC BY

Both dogs benefit from being smaller and smaller trends longer-living. The Maltese typically live 12-15 years, while some Maltipoo can live almost two decades. 

Maltese are generally a healthy breed but have a few common problems to watch for:

    Luxating patella – loose knee joints

    Dental disease

    Chronic allergies – itchy pup or a gassy dog!

    Eye diseases

    Heart diseases

    Collapsing trachea – windpipe collapses, leading to frequent coughing and huffing

    White Shaker Syndrome – full-body tremors, found in small dog breeds

Maltipoos are also generally healthy, and as a hybrid, usually have the best of two different breeds. While the goal is always to be the best, there are some health problems that Maltipoos tend to have:

    Allergies

    Dental disease

    Eye diseases (you will need to clean Maltipoo eyes)

    Luxating patella – loose knee joints

    White Shaker Syndrome – full-body tremors, found in small dog breeds

So Which Pet Is Best? Maltese vs. Maltipoo

The pros and cons of these two breeds are similar because Maltipoos are half Maltese. If you want a cuddle companion, both dogs will be happy to spend their time close to you. 

So which dog breed is best? 

If you’re searching for a dog to join a family home, the Maltipoo is better with kids and other animals. If you want temperament and traits you can predict, the Maltese’s centuries of breeding make it a reliable choice.

We hope this side-by-side comparison helped you decide which breed feels right in your home!